diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.cpp b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.cpp
index 226d8c44c48..b33aca6e30e 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.cpp
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ NETLIB_NAMESPACE_DEVICES_START()
 
 NETLIB_START(CD4020)
 {
+	set_logic_family(family_CD4XXX);
 	register_sub("sub", sub);
 	register_sub("supply", m_supply);
 
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.h b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.h
index 759e7dc177f..00ce7158685 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.h
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4020.h
@@ -45,7 +45,6 @@ NETLIB_NAMESPACE_DEVICES_START()
 
 NETLIB_SUBDEVICE(CD4020_sub,
 
-	NETLIB_LOGIC_FAMILY(CD4XXX)
 	ATTR_HOT void update_outputs(const UINT16 cnt);
 
 	logic_input_t m_IP;
@@ -56,7 +55,6 @@ NETLIB_SUBDEVICE(CD4020_sub,
 );
 
 NETLIB_DEVICE(CD4020,
-	NETLIB_LOGIC_FAMILY(CD4XXX)
 	NETLIB_SUB(CD4020_sub) sub;
 	NETLIB_SUB(vdd_vss) m_supply;
 	logic_input_t m_RESET;
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.cpp b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.cpp
index 7dd471c0ae0..0a792d1ebc6 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.cpp
@@ -11,6 +11,7 @@ NETLIB_NAMESPACE_DEVICES_START()
 
 NETLIB_START(CD4066_GATE)
 {
+	set_logic_family(family_CD4XXX);
 	register_input("CTL", m_control);
 	register_sub("PS", m_supply);
 	register_sub("R", m_R);
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.h b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.h
index 87378d6b6c1..e392a80f11a 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.h
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_4066.h
@@ -33,7 +33,6 @@
 NETLIB_NAMESPACE_DEVICES_START()
 
 NETLIB_DEVICE(CD4066_GATE,
-	NETLIB_LOGIC_FAMILY(CD4XXX)
 public:
 
 	analog_input_t m_control;
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.cpp b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.cpp
index 059ea406751..a745fdbd3f9 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.cpp
@@ -226,12 +226,14 @@ NETLIB_RESET(9602_dip)
 
 NETLIB_START(4538_dip)
 {
-	m_1->m_dev_type = 4538;
-	m_2->m_dev_type = 4538;
+	set_logic_family(family_CD4XXX);
 
 	register_sub("1", m_1);
 	register_sub("2", m_2);
 
+	m_1->m_dev_type = 4538;
+	m_2->m_dev_type = 4538;
+
 	register_subalias("1", m_1->m_RN->m_R->m_N); // C1
 	register_subalias("2", m_1->m_RN->m_R->m_P); // RC1
 	register_subalias("3", m_1->m_CLRQ);
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.h b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.h
index 0379245aedd..fcf20af4793 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.h
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/devices/nld_74123.h
@@ -116,7 +116,6 @@ NETLIB_DEVICE(9602_dip,
 		NET_REGISTER_DEV(CD4538_DIP, _name)
 
 NETLIB_DEVICE(4538_dip,
-	NETLIB_LOGIC_FAMILY(CD4XXX)
 	NETLIB_SUB(74123) m_1;
 	NETLIB_SUB(74123) m_2;
 );
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/macro/nlm_ttl74xx.h b/src/lib/netlist/macro/nlm_ttl74xx.h
index a71cd06b33a..541a9932fb5 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/macro/nlm_ttl74xx.h
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/macro/nlm_ttl74xx.h
@@ -49,8 +49,8 @@
 #define TTL_7408_GATE(_name)                                                   \
 		NET_REGISTER_DEV(TTL_7408_GATE, _name)
 
-#define TTL_7408_NAND(_name, _A, _B)                                           \
-		NET_REGISTER_DEV(TTL_7408_NAND, _name)                         		   \
+#define TTL_7408_AND(_name, _A, _B)                                            \
+		NET_REGISTER_DEV(TTL_7408_AND, _name)                         		   \
 		NET_CONNECT(_name, A, _A)                                      		   \
 		NET_CONNECT(_name, B, _B)
 
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.cpp b/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.cpp
index 8daedc1ff7e..d79355b5de2 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.cpp
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.cpp
@@ -398,7 +398,7 @@ ATTR_COLD core_device_t::core_device_t(const family_t afamily, netlist_t &anetli
 #endif
 {
 	if (logic_family() == nullptr)
-		set_logic_family(this->default_logic_family());
+		set_logic_family(family_TTL);
 	init_object(anetlist, name);
 }
 
diff --git a/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.h b/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.h
index 783431ee881..46cfab1d953 100644
--- a/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.h
+++ b/src/lib/netlist/nl_base.h
@@ -251,13 +251,6 @@ using netlist_sig_t = std::uint32_t;
 			ATTR_HOT void update_param() override;                              \
 		, _priv)
 
-#define NETLIB_LOGIC_FAMILY(_fam)                                               \
-virtual logic_family_desc_t *default_logic_family() override                    \
-{                                                                               \
-	return family_ ## _fam;                                                     \
-}
-
-
 //============================================================
 //  Asserts
 //============================================================
@@ -1089,11 +1082,7 @@ namespace netlist
 
 		ATTR_HOT virtual void update() { }
 		virtual void start() { }
-		virtual void stop() { }                                                  \
-		virtual logic_family_desc_t *default_logic_family()
-		{
-			return family_TTL;
-		}
+		virtual void stop() { }
 
 	private: