diff --git a/src/mame/audio/bzone.cpp b/src/mame/audio/bzone.cpp
index 3bbc89835a0..fd363bef5f9 100644
--- a/src/mame/audio/bzone.cpp
+++ b/src/mame/audio/bzone.cpp
@@ -392,7 +392,7 @@ WRITE8_MEMBER(bzone_state::bzone_sounds_w)
 {
 	m_discrete->write(space, BZ_INPUT, data);
 
-	output().set_value("startled", (data >> 6) & 1);
+	m_startled = BIT(data, 6);
 	machine().sound().system_enable(data & 0x20);
 }
 
diff --git a/src/mame/audio/cinemat.cpp b/src/mame/audio/cinemat.cpp
index 34ecded46f7..fb9dbec1349 100644
--- a/src/mame/audio/cinemat.cpp
+++ b/src/mame/audio/cinemat.cpp
@@ -259,7 +259,7 @@ WRITE_LINE_MEMBER(cinemat_state::speedfrk_sound4_w)
 WRITE_LINE_MEMBER(cinemat_state::speedfrk_start_led_w)
 {
 	/* start LED is controlled by bit 0x02 */
-	output().set_led_value(0, !state);
+	m_led = !state;
 }
 
 MACHINE_CONFIG_START(cinemat_state::speedfrk_sound)
@@ -499,7 +499,7 @@ WRITE_LINE_MEMBER(cinemat_state::tailg_sound_w)
 			m_samples->start(5, 5);
 
 		/* LED */
-		output().set_led_value(0, m_current_shift & 0x40);
+		m_led = BIT(m_current_shift, 6);
 
 		/* remember the previous value */
 		m_last_shift = m_current_shift;
diff --git a/src/mame/drivers/bzone.cpp b/src/mame/drivers/bzone.cpp
index 0cc63850820..a0bb0e31538 100644
--- a/src/mame/drivers/bzone.cpp
+++ b/src/mame/drivers/bzone.cpp
@@ -231,6 +231,7 @@
 void bzone_state::machine_start()
 {
 	save_item(NAME(m_analog_data));
+	m_startled.resolve();
 }
 
 
diff --git a/src/mame/drivers/cinemat.cpp b/src/mame/drivers/cinemat.cpp
index cd526b14e95..ad0002038c5 100644
--- a/src/mame/drivers/cinemat.cpp
+++ b/src/mame/drivers/cinemat.cpp
@@ -58,6 +58,7 @@ void cinemat_state::machine_start()
 	save_item(NAME(m_coin_detected));
 	save_item(NAME(m_coin_last_reset));
 	save_item(NAME(m_mux_select));
+	m_led.resolve();
 }
 
 
diff --git a/src/mame/includes/bzone.h b/src/mame/includes/bzone.h
index b4b71c84988..7ebdf68894f 100644
--- a/src/mame/includes/bzone.h
+++ b/src/mame/includes/bzone.h
@@ -24,7 +24,8 @@ public:
 		driver_device(mconfig, type, tag),
 		m_maincpu(*this, "maincpu"),
 		m_mathbox(*this, "mathbox"),
-		m_discrete(*this, "discrete")
+		m_discrete(*this, "discrete"),
+		m_startled(*this, "startled")
 	{ }
 
 	DECLARE_CUSTOM_INPUT_MEMBER(clock_r);
@@ -47,6 +48,7 @@ private:
 	required_device<cpu_device> m_maincpu;
 	required_device<mathbox_device> m_mathbox;
 	optional_device<discrete_device> m_discrete;
+	output_finder<> m_startled;
 
 	uint8_t m_analog_data;
 };
diff --git a/src/mame/includes/cinemat.h b/src/mame/includes/cinemat.h
index 3a078ee17df..49d1b53633e 100644
--- a/src/mame/includes/cinemat.h
+++ b/src/mame/includes/cinemat.h
@@ -27,6 +27,7 @@ public:
 		, m_rambase(*this, "rambase")
 		, m_analog_x(*this, "ANALOGX")
 		, m_analog_y(*this, "ANALOGY")
+		, m_led(*this, "led")
 	{ }
 
 	required_device<ccpu_cpu_device> m_maincpu;
@@ -40,6 +41,8 @@ public:
 	optional_ioport m_analog_x;
 	optional_ioport m_analog_y;
 
+	output_finder<> m_led;
+
 	uint32_t m_current_shift;
 	uint32_t m_last_shift;
 	uint32_t m_last_shift2;